[–]gummicarrots 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (8 children), [–]JustAnotherGeek12345Oʻahu 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (7 children). Living here, you generally live a normal life, going to work (sometimes multiple jobs due to HCOL), sitting in traffic, running errands, hanging with family/friends. It is the most isolated place on earth, over 2000 miles of ocean away from the nearest continent. Here is a list of tornados that have hit Hawaii, [–]macahiOʻahu 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago* (0 children). If you love eating name brand packaged foods (with huge price tags due to importing), you're going to have a hard time grocery shopping in Hawaii. However, there are also some downsides to buying the home of your dreams. It's my favorite part about HI. Sorry, this post was deleted by the person who originally posted it. In conclusion, Cons - Actual Important grown up shit, Pros - Trivial shit. http://www.meetup.com/graduated-and-living-in-Hawaii/, [–]ex250Hawaii 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children). Questions about moving to Hawaii? To some Residing in Hawaii pros and cons might seem higher however today you pay for high quality living. The isolation of Hawaii is my greatest hardship. Amazon Prime free 2 day shipping. Always have enough money for that return ticket. If you want to move with pets, be aware that your pool of potential dwellings will be cut by a 10th. There are some challenges to consider when living in the Virgin Islands, but those issues are more related to its location in the Caribbean and the logistical issues that come with that problem. is often unrealistic, fantasy, superficial, etc. You'll run into people all the time and there is almost nothing to do at night. Few jobs. If you're from a place with little to no traffic, you may hate it. The Cost of Living in Kauai Hawaii. Homeless have it worse, partially due to hcol but also due to folks moving here with unrealistic expectations. Low violent crime and gang violence, but high everything-else crime. Amazon Prime free 2 day shipping. People will stop to help you for the most part, and everything is nearby. Here's the same item shipped to a mainland address. /r/Hawaii Mod Appreciation Thread! I don't think you can say HI has a "high crime rate". You need to visit the islands a few times or for an extended period of time before even considering moving to Hawaii. If you are not career driven, you will have a hard time affording the island. Let’s start off with the 5 cons of why I don’t like living in Oahu. Honolulu Rail may cost almost $11.4B, not open for full service until 2031, Flooding on Haleakala Highway right now (11am, March 13 2021, Legislation Proposed to Protect Hawaiʻi's Cultural Icons From Being Exploited After Passing, Rail boss offers apology for not telling board of $3B deficit. There is less light pollution on the Big Island. Otherwise, lots of locals get family help, multi-generational living, etc. Here's the Amazon page that says Prime shipping to Hawaii is standard, not 2-day, which I confirmed again by setting up an order with a Prime account. A good number of my friends live there now, and I do not understand. My rent is 2,700 a month and that gets me about what I got in Charleston for less than a grand. The Pros And Cons Of Living In Hawaii Pros of living in Hawaii:-Fantastic weather-Gorgeous nature (beaches, hiking, etc)-Low sales tax and general excise tax-Diverse culture-Laid-back, island attitude-Kind, generous people-Ideal place for government and/or military jobs-You get to tell others you live in freakin’ Hawaii! Even locals with decent jobs ($40K-50K) take on second jobs to pay for a comfortable standard of living. -If you're a foodie this place is a gold mine. The Pros: At least the property management companies I talked to. The state of Hawaii is home to 11 of the 13 sub climates that you can find in the world today. Jobs with an application date are the only ones worth applying to. List of the Pros of Living in Hawaii. While locals live in rundown housing, living with poor infrastructure, etc. Don't move to Hawaii unless you have a lot of money already, because here it goes fast. Traffic isn't great, but it's on par with most major cities in the US, fortunately Honolulu is rather small so getting places doesn't take too much time, as compared to big cities, where you may not necessarily be sitting in "traffic" but it takes awhile to get places due to design, sprawl, etc. I thought they were all pretty much F0s. You can enjoy the beautiful weather and beaches every day. And especially gun-related violence is quite rare here (though sadly, it still does happen). My wife and I spent almost a grand for the vet shit so they didn't have to be quarantined for 6 months once they arrived. Includes information on moving here, visiting, or other general questions you might have! The cons: 17676% more expensive than the US average. A few things I've noticed on the negative side when you're a resident and not a starry-eyed tourist. Roaches. Where we live, the nearest proper grocery store … Lumping all of Hawaii into one category is a mistake. I don't know. Pretty much everything. use the following search parameters to narrow your results: /r/Hawaii Wiki - Info compiled by the /r/Hawaii community about our state. However, I did try to search r/Hawaii and “pro””con” etc and didn’t find any posts that were very similar. [–]macahiOʻahu 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (2 children). It's why you're looking to move to Hawaii and not Iowa(no offense Iowans). But that’s not the case.If fact, New York City is considered one of the top 5 safest large cities in America.. After living in New York City for so long, I can honestly say I’ve never felt unsafe here, mostly because I’ve never been alone on the streets. -Cost of living is high, but the wages don't match. Thanks for your reply! Two centipedes in my bed in the middle of the night in the last week. New York City is SAFE. but the best things are really affordable. [–]LotusKobra 9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (0 children). 3 - If your at or near sea level, no cold weather clothes required. IMO, a lot of outsiders ideas of hawaii, living here, local culture, etc. Hawaii is communal and non-conformist but there's also a divide between locals vs non-locals (of certain ethnic groups in particular), generally speaking. I've seen it plenty of times. Im a much happier person here. My favorite island is Kauai because of how beautiful and desolate it is, but you'd be hard pressed to find a decent job there unless you can work remotely. Almost every showing I went to had several people show up. Hawaii is simply not for everyone. Really yummy food hasn't been mentioned yet. 5 - There's poisonous stuff in the ocean. Thinking about possibly making the move to hawaii after I finish college this spring. Hawaii is not only a picturesque beach destination that offers plenty of summer activities, it also has around 3% crime rate, which is extremely low for a … So let’s talk about my 5 pros to living in Oahu, Hawaii, and 5 cons I really don’t like. Pros and Cons of living in Hawaii?Moving Question (self.Hawaii). Either you will love it and find a way to make it work, or you will hate it and leave quickly. how do I prove to you that Amazon ships second day using Amazon Prime to Hawaii? And it's not like you can just drive into the country for a day trip. [–]raunchpad 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children), I don't think their numbers are large enough that they qualify as a con but ok, [–]t_ran_asuarus_rexOʻahu 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children). I'm gonna go out on a limb and say there's still some, but it's much, much less. Tech wages tend to be lower. The Cons: Aside from what’s mentioned above, living anywhere in Hawai‘i is expensive. This is something that always bothers me--referring to the mainland as if it is one monolithic thing that has the same culture and landscape throughout. Edit: Pets. Cons: Don't like the insects. This might catch you by surprise because most people assume New York City is unsafe. [–]midnightrambler956 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (6 children). [–]Owlie 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child). Don't like the weather. Living in Hawaii is expensive, largely due to the cost of housing. I was very surprised to see a couple of F2s on that list you linked though. 2 - Housing is expensive - your standard split-level "ranch" with front and back yard is gonna cost ya! There are things you will not see/notice only visiting one time for a week or less. Hawaii and the idea of it, more than ever, seems to have become a product. Rendered by PID 30085 on r2-app-07e282fab5f4666b9 at 2021-03-14 02:14:20.761442+00:00 running 1ebdfbe country code: HU. You'd want to make sure you have a high income or you're comfortable living with a couple of roommates to make ends meet. Living In Hawaii Pros And Cons. I have no idea. Locals cope with it by being early risers; garage sales are often played out by 9AM for instance; and not hurrying around in mid-day. The links you've provided are clear - Hawaii isn't supposed to get two day shipping yet I am. Too many cars, not enough lanes, and there's always construction going on somewhere slowing things down. The way they think, act, etc. Cons? Also, UH is ok, certainly better than other States, but also if given the chance, many local kids go to California or other State schools are better, imo. 1 - Milk's $10 a gallon! They just stack the applications until the funding is available, but it might never get available. Forget about it. and join one of thousands of communities. This isn't like anytown, USA where you look at a place, sign a lease, and get the keys the next day. How do you prove something which isn't true? Nobody who does a cost/benefit analysis would ever consider Hawaii as a candidate for residence. There aren't a lot of jobs in your field - lots of lab work is shipped to the mainland and a number of labs have closed/scaled back over the past couple of years. 3 - There's tech in Hawaii but not tons of it. We live on an island; it’s always humid. [–]JustAnotherGeek12345Oʻahu 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (12 children). Oh, and did I mention it's expensive as fuck? 3 - There's tech in Hawaii but not tons of it. Get an ad-free experience with special benefits, and directly support Reddit. All of the islands are very different from one another, too. That means a five hour plane ride. Hawaii. There is a huge difference between living in Waikiki on Oahu and Puna on the Big Island. Almost all career paths are better paid in the L48, especially when considering cost of living. Everyday life is MUCH different than visiting here. 10 - (My own opinion) In time, Hawaii is going to be recognized as being as important musically as New Orleans. Speed limits are merely suggestions. High population density, too many homeless, heavy traffic, visits to the mainland are expensive, feelings of geographic isolation, high food costs, threat of hurricanes, rat lung worm, everything metal rusts, roaches are unavoidable, long shipping times, lithium batteries are hard to get and are expensive, very high humidity for 1/3 of the year, high state income tax, high car registration fees, high car prices in general, limited variety of concerts & events, many homes are thinly built and overpriced, brown water advisories, and there’s only one political party. 1. Thank you for the thoughtful reply. That said, just come. I will be graduating with a microbiology degree. You may thrive in an urban jungle, and detest living in an actual one. Before you arrive, here’s some inside information you should know. It's the end of the world! there is also unique opportunity here based on the geography. 7 - There are still the problems that go with modernity: Traffic, bureaucracy, petty and occasionally not-so-petty crime, etc. It's used by people from Alaska, which makes sense , but yeah, not used here. H3(running north - south) isn't too bad most days. Mmmmm... think TMT protestors, SuperFerry protestors... [–]big-fireballOʻahu 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children). - heinously outdated infrastructure (think water main breaks) 14747% more expensive than the US average. You're allowed for your first 3 months here to call it "getting lei'd". There's a lot of pessimism and the local politics are disgraceful but this place isn't all bad. My rent in an "expensive" part of Colorado is ~1000 dollars less a month for a similar living situation. However, there's a notable division between locals and non-locals, and a lot of non-locals stick out or just don't get it. It is very competitive here. Oahu has some homeless and drug issues that aren’t nearly as bad on the other islands. I've known people who moved here on a shoestring budget and get by living in town. A minority of people live a life of "adventure", surfing everyday, hiking all the time, beach, etc. [–]ironicalballsOʻahu 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children). It really does live up to the Hawaii fantasy. Traditional houses in Hawaii don't have air conditioning but use things like louvered windows and "transoms" over doors (openings over doors). I actually just moved to Oahu not too long ago. People asking the same questions without searching. Nobody who does a cost/benefit analysis would ever consider Hawaii as a candidate for residence. Traffic leaving Honolulu in the PM is equally garbage. The other four are real, though. I moved here, worked for a year, went to college, got my degree, and still live and work here comfortably. I couldn't agree more. REDDIT and the ALIEN Logo are registered trademarks of reddit inc. π Rendered by PID 30085 on r2-app-07e282fab5f4666b9 at 2021-03-14 02:14:20.761442+00:00 running 1ebdfbe country code: HU. Pros: Good weather, access to nature, good food, nice friendly people that generally care about others a bit more and an overall great local culture and mindset, generally safe place. Brief video describing the pros and cons of living in Hawaii. Most things close by 10:30. I definitely get the reasons for underlying resentment of mainlanders. We've done dope events like Alan Davis beach, Waikiki bar crawls, and Stairway to Heaven. Cons of Living in Hawaii: Island fever & isolation. Depending on city... insane traffic congestion. Let’s start off with the architecture. You have a criminal history with drugs, don't even think about it. I'm going to have to get up at 8 am to watch a 1PM Steelers game in EST. I am new to Reddit and don’t fully understand how searching works. 7 - If you're into ham radio, everywhere else is "DX" or a long distance contact and they want to talk to you. I don't think it's intentional most of the time unless you're some pasty haole roaming the streets somewhere in BFE Windward. Starry, Starry Nights. 6 - University of Hawaii does some interesting and important research. The only other place I've been with crazy ass drivers like this was Tijuana. The only advantage is you don't have to order $35 worth of stuff, but that hardly ever matters. Neither has the fact that people move here and move away again a lot. Don't like the locals/neigihbors. It's below the national average. Don't become a homeless statistic. Love it! 6 - There's not nearly the "white privilege" there is on the mainland. If you want to include Alaska in that figure, you can bump it up to 346 times. Now, if by "mainland" you mean the Los Angeles metropolitan area (which most people in Hawaii mean when they say "the mainland") then I think a lot of people would be inclined to agree with you. Got bit by one of them three times before realizing WTF was going on. As a college grad (assuming you have no kids and not married to someone who doesn't want to work) you can totally make it. Traffic. Can't afford the high prices. That means there is the perfect environment for you to live when you consider all of the islands. If you're a sports buff, the time difference will royally fuck your shit up. I’m sorry if you felt this question clogged up your news feed. I know someone in their mid twenties with the same degree and she doesn't get payed well enough to have her own place. I moved from Charleston, South Carolina. You meet all kinds wherever you go but being Asian here has it's perks. Hot and cold running lava - lol. Extremely High Cost of Living. Hawaii is much deeper than that. Boise offers a low population density to enjoy. [–]raunchpad 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (4 children), [–]KaneHauHawaiʻi (Big Island) 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (3 children). High cost of living. Those people exist no matter where you go in the world. I'm not going to list the pros because they're pretty obvious. If you have an "aggressive" breed, don't even try it. Often it's fueled by romantic notions, tv, internet, social media, etc. I looked at a place in Waimanalo(beautiful, but fucking nothing to do) and it was still $3k/month for a very dated bottom unit duplex that had 4 people living upstairs. [–]leafofpennyroyal 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (0 children), hawaii can be a hub of east meets west. They will generally take 6-12 months to respond. Beautiful stuff. Kind of late but here's my input from someone born and raised here. [–]JustAnotherGeek12345Oʻahu 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child). Not sure about now, but when I was there in the late '80s, Venice was the only decent part, but it was already getting gentrified. 4 - Cockroaches, centipedes, earwigs, click beetles, flying termites, big ants, little ants, crazy ants ... BUGS. Hawaii just isn't a 'pros and cons' kind of place to me, it's unique. Of course this is not very common, but it happens. If you have never been here for vacation - do not consider moving here. and many just don't understand. It's kind of a catch 22 because the best chance at actually getting a job is being on the island. Don't like the food. For federal jobs, I wouldn't consider it easy, I know plenty working federal and it seems just the same as anywhere else, but it helps to know someone on the inside locally too. Living in Hawaii, Best and Worst, KauaiAfter 1 year in Hawaii the pros and cons of life on Kauai. Finding a place to live is not a piece of cake. Even though the Treasure Valley is the home to over 700,000 people, the population density in Boise is surprisingly low. This is why the bugs like it so much! Want to live and work in a place with a rich history, where the cost of living and home prices are low, the culture is unique, and the landscape is extremely scenic? [–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 5 years ago (0 children). Hawaii is perfect breeding ground for these monstrosities. -The nature can be stunning. Additionally, tourists being everywhere and crowding places can put a damper on things. Cons of living in Hawaii: - severe lack of maintenance on existing projects (things like Aloha Stadium, the many office buildings (at least one is competely vacant and finally after 10 years they are renovating) downtown owned by the state, state owned roads, etc etc etc), [–]spam-musubiOʻahu 8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (2 children). I've lived in a few different parts of the mainland, and been to a few more, and I always end up missing Hawaii. I've lived across the US and local culture I haven't found an equivalent of elsewhere, with it's asian/polynesian roots, a stronger sense of community, respect and humility exists, imo. Moni abstained as only being nine-weeks old. Unless you're a conservative, then you'll see quite a different side. If you get anxious in crazy traffic, you might have a bad time. UPS 2-day shipping isn't even a paid option, it goes by Parcel Post/USPS (and this is to a street address, not a PO Box). It's the end of the world! Most retirees will find that houses, condos, or rentals will cost them significantly more that what they were paying on the mainland. With a brief respite from unpacking boxes and moving back to the good ol’ United States, I asked everyone at the table to reflect on the best and worst parts of living in the Cayman Islands for the last three years. But, seriously, get a job first. -Moronic drivers. I you can not afford to do that - you can't afford to live here. Hawaii looks like a bunch of communist North Korean hybrids on meth built the place on … [–]JustAnotherGeek12345Oʻahu 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children). There's several great Açai bowl places, Eat the street (monthly food truck get together), poke bowls, Zippy's (open 24hrs/day), and the Chinese and Japanese food is excellent, but it's all very pricey. People on vacation consider it paradise. If you all could help me out with supplying a few pros and cons of living on the island(s), I would greatly appreciate it. 5 - If you want to learn an Asian language, this is a good place to do it. Aug 31. I don't know... when I order from Amazon I receive UPS or FedEx 2nd Day. You are on an island. But if you’re planning on staying for good, you need to know the pros and cons of living in this tropical paradise: Pros of Living in Hawaii Low Crime Rate. Leaving for any reason takes lots of money and planning, even to just go to another island. It almost sickens me. On the flip side of Hawaii’s notoriously high cost of living … It is true that l iving expenses such as food, gas, and electric are more expensive than on most of the Mainland. If you don't have a microbiology job lined up for you after Spring ($45,000 yr min), take out loans to rent and work part time in service industry... [–]frostfromfireKauaʻi 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children). #1. Pros: Very beautiful (mostly) But, as my high school boyfriend's mom said when we mentioned wanting to go there "Oh, you'll end up there someday and you'll regret it once you are. If you're a fan of going to concerts of really popular artists or lots of different kinds of festivals, and don't generally entertain yourself with the outdoors, then you may be bored in Hawaii. It should also be a pro. Doesn't really bother me, but a thinner skinned person may take offense. And that's not just downtown Honolulu. Cons of Living in Oahu, Hawaii. 9 - It's generally hot and humid. -Race is definitely a thing. You're also probably not going to get a place unless you're living here. But LA is definitely the stinking butthole of the continent. Some people dream of moving to Honolulu for a life of sunshine, friendly people and outdoor living. Difficult for outsiders to get local jobs. Based on the turnover I've seen at the labs we work with the salary is probably pretty low, there are a lot of recent grads, and people seem to last maybe a year. Living here is another matter. Look around the State the difference between the have and have-nots, particularly rich outsiders and tourism vs everyday locals is apparent. Expensive condos goes up in prime locations that are unaffordable by most locals. If it costs money, it will cost a lot more than you’re used to paying. [–]meerghan 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children). a lot of prominent figures from all over the world meet here because it's in the middle (and hell, it's Hawaii). A lot of people point out that Living in Hawaii is the most attractive United States state. The Aloha Spirit Is Alive And Well And Living In Hawaii. If you don't mind basically living out of a bedroom of someone's house, this would definitely be the best bet. If you're an introverted person, you're likely to have a bad time, because if you're not making a decent amount of money, you're definitely going to need a roommate. Pros and Cons of Moving to New Mexico . Some call it "island time" some call it lazy; for a lot of the sub-cultures in Hawaii life's not about hurrying around to get "more", it's about making sure your ohana have enough, and if there's any "more" involved it's over generations not a rush to get it overnight. You get Free standard shipping on all orders of any $ amount to Hawaii, just not free 2 day shipping that you normally get with Prime everywhere else. As a Florida resident, you’ll likely pay far less of your hard-earned money in taxes to state and local government entities, than where you … 1 - People string flowers on strings and hang 'um around your neck. I don't select the carrier (UPS or FedEx) - Amazon decides. Or two. Just to counter-argue. CA can get them too, but again, rare and weak and I wouldn't add that to a list of cons for CA. Plus rail is going to do nothing for traffic. Mostly they start as waterspouts that come ashore. While the city really is a wonderful place to live, newcomers should be prepared for a very different culture and way of life. Waikiki has all these nice shops, buildings, tourists have these nice amenities. I would have never moved here if I didn't have a job lined up with a huge COL bump. Hawaii has experience a population drop in fact the past few years, so locals are feeling it as well, but that's more so the HCOL and job situation. But don't honk, it's pretty offensive. If you love spending time with your family and friends who are going to stay on the mainland, there's a good chance you're going to get island fever because you can't pop on over (or even easily fly over) to see them. Everyone drives so. just for a change. This is a beautiful and laid-back state. Oahu has the most available jobs, but traffic is a nightmare, over-development is a serious issue, and housing is expensive (in comparison to Kauai or the Big Island.) to get by. [–]Owlie 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children), [–]damn_nation 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children), Pros?? wage is atrocious at $7.75, and I'm pretty sure most starting salaries do not account for this. People downvote the dumbest things...have an ^ . Good Summary. [–]pauman808 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children), If you're a recent grad moving to Oahu I recently started a meetup called "Graduated and Living In Hawaii(20's)" to bring people together. The last Queen of Hawaii before the American Annexation. Please read our Moving to Hawaii wiki first. Either you will love it and find a way to make it work, or you will hate it and leave quickly. I also wouldn't list earthquakes. Con #1: The Humidity. F Waianae Cost of Living Cost of living is 16% lower than Hawaii. As per crime, depends on the island and area on the island. [–]midnightrambler956 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (1 child). [–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago* (0 children). [–]JimmyHavok 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (4 children), Pros: I can't stand the mainland for more than a few months at a time, [–]Owlie 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (3 children). … There are so many more variables to consider when comparing the cost of living on the Mainland to Hawaii. Here are a couple of tracking #s as proof - 1Z89AW780204753278 and 633511594728. -I've always felt very safe here compared to when I lived in LA. Living in Las Vegas - The Pros and Cons You Need to Know Before Your move The past two years, we started putting together a list of pros and cons for each city (check out Portland & NYC ). Local mangoes run circles around what you get on the mainland. I lived on Oahu for nine years before moving to Seattle (the first … Lock down a job. [–]JustAnotherGeek12345Oʻahu 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (5 children). Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. If you are thinking about a move in the near future, then these are the pros and cons of living in Boise, ID, to consider. Tech wages tend to be lower. I have still never been to LA or even California. It doesn't appear in any feeds, and anyone with a direct link to it will see a message like this one. Here's the Amazon page that says Prime shipping to Hawaii is standard, not 2-day, the same item shipped to a mainland address, http://www.meetup.com/graduated-and-living-in-Hawaii/, If you are here for travel advice, please visit. People leave too frequently to invest time in deep friendships with newcomers. I think it's not so much as the folks here are ill-mannered, just not as overtly-friendly as in the south. I’ve been to a large majority of the 50 States and hav spent 10 years on the East Coast before moving out West in 2001. © 2021 reddit inc. All rights reserved. If you are here for travel advice, please visit /r/HawaiiVisitors instead!

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