See the point spread, moneyline, and game total over/under for … I put a lot of effort into […], In 1990 I wrote a short paper on a textual-critical issue in a French writer with larger implications for the interpretation of his work. Mount St. Mary Academy QUICK LINKS. And sure, some presentations are more egregious than others. I reiterate, I don’t know who all was involved or to what extent. Report, Yes: (i) I do think that in fact this publication will do more to reinforce “Stop the Steal” lunacy than it will lead to a deeper understanding of those who’ve succumbed to it, that (ii) it is indeed fairly obvious that this will be its net effect, and, finally, (iii) that it’s also fairly obvious that reinforcing Trumpist lunacy was a significant part of Josh Hochschild’s purpose, whether or not he’s willing to acknowledge it even to himself. St. Mary's High School - Lancaster. A prominent Christian philosopher recently wrote a popular piece defending the legality of abortion. Enquiring minds and adventurous souls looking for a senior school to inspire, nurture, challenge and support them need look no further. Mount St. Mary's proceeded to go on an 11-2 run for a 10-point advantage with 3:27 left. I’m skeptical. For example, I think that the left’s response to last summer’s riots was reprehensible and makes me concerned that they’re not as willing to rebuke their most radical elements as I’d like them to be. But regardless of insurrection vs. riot terminology, I’d recommend Robert Paxton’s analysis, which, though not totally rigorous at every step, is helpful for clarifying that the events of Jan. 6th are an indicator of a risk that can manifest through pathways other than a successful armed uprising: https://www.newsweek.com/robert-paxton-trump-fascist-1560652, On to the part we might, to a significant extent, agree about. The default position should be to give one another the benefit of the doubt. So I mean comfortable not in the sense that the tension itself is comfortable (it’s deeply uncomfortable at times) but that we are comfortable—have reconciled ourselves to—experiencing that tension.Report. Both at great financial and reputational expense. In particular, we don’t know the degree of “concertation.” I don’t think our default credence that there was none should be overwhelmingly high, particularly given various links between the militias involved and Republican representatives and activists and given the months of illegal attempts to overturn the election. Having looked at the petition, it doesn’t look to me as if your description of it as merely calling for his resignation, and not asking his employer to take some kind of disciplinary action, is accurate. Cheers.Report, Okay—fair enough. The student response here plainly runs afoul of those values. 12001 Chalon Road Los Angeles, CA 90049 310.954.4000 After this publication, we now see why he refuses to acknowledge institutional racism in higher education, and why he creates a hostile environment for students that don’t subscribe to his ideals. Cardinal OHara High School Feb 25 @ 2. Just to recap—merely presenting Trump supporters (30+% of the population) sympathetically has students calling for your resignation, fellow academics and “friends” cursing at you, etc.Report, I think the article is beyond the pale because it boosts propaganda about the 2020 election, propaganda that was developed and spread by a dangerous authoritarian movement. Extra points (or extra demerits) for cloaking themselves in an ill-defined “anti-establishment” mantle. The analogy is with the promotion of authoritarian propaganda. I don’t have a specific example at hand, but I’m certain I could easily find a discussion of these riots that I’d consider beyond the pale. (And also that Trump successfully conned people who were “fed up with both parties,” etc. "This is the biggest speech and debate tournament, as schools compete nationally and … But, Justin, your coverage of this car crash is only making the situation much worse.Report, I’m not privy to the social media behaviour you mention, but I’m a bit surprised by the contrast here between your use of the word “friend” (indeed, “longtime friend”) and the rest of what you have to say about Hochschild.Report, I have a lot of friends, including some close and longtime ones, who’ve been corrupted by Trumpism, much to my dismay. Mount St. Mary's University accepts Graduate Assistantship applications throughout the academic year. E.g., that a police officer died at the capitol as a result of being hit with a fire extinguisher. Is that propaganda? But I think varying degrees of comfort and discomfort are appropriate, for various people, towards all kinds of permitted speech. the former, while seeing the latter as ‘beyond the pale’, that is a double standard. What I meant to do was defend it against charges that it’s particularly egregious, or should have never been written, or other such charges—I think such charges display a lack of self-awareness and an intellectually irresponsible double standard.Report, “I’m just not sure about the uniqueness of this. Mar. Everyone does. Not only does he try to justify Trump’s “skepticism” and falsehoods about the election; he also tries to defend Trump’s record, praising among other things his having presided over a “robust” economy and having “reframed diplomacy in the Middle East.” To anyone who even half-followed what Trump did on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict or on Iran, for instance, the praise is absurd. The issue is whether their demand shows a lamentable lack of understanding of academic freedom, not whether they in turn should face sanction for their speech. As for weather JH’s article meets the criteria for an a-type article, I think it clearly does, but am honestly fine with agreeing to disagree about it at this point. My claim is not that such a demand can *never* be appropriate. I’m going to see how skewed the presentation is if the perspective is not my own. ; it’s all old news. I’ve been living in Europe since the end of Trump’s first year in office, and I’ve watched the situation back home with dismay along a number of dimensions. Grace Berger scored a career-high 24 points and No. I’m just not sure about the uniqueness of this. As for the student petition: unlike the students, I did not find Hochschild “calling for” a)respectability, b)humanity, or 3)decency in his essay. And so giving in to those urges, satisfying as they may be for the reflection we see of ourselves among our tribe in reacting to them, proves that we were not really interested in addressing the underlying problem of political extremism. There are several differences between the two cases you’re considering. Mount St. Mary's guard Damian Chong Qui (15) shoots as he threads between Bryant guards Chris Childs (30) and Michael Green III (3) during the second half of an NCAA college basketball game for the Northeast Conference men's tournament championship Tuesday, March 9, 2021, in Smithfield, R.I. I don’t think there’s a sharp distinction between factual errors and specious arguments. Again, to me, that’s like a liberal in the Weimar Republic expressing appreciation for an explanation of people’s belief in the “stabbed in the back” myth that reinforces this myth. Residents are not permitted off-site except for medical appointments which must be approved in advance. JH made himself part of the propaganda network by directing his readers to plenty of Trump-related propaganda, particularly concerning the election. The Mountaineers compete in the NCAA Division I and are members of the Northeast Conference. I suppose I think a lot of things are “beyond the pale” in some sense—(like advancing the pro-choice cause, particularly if one is Catholic) but given that people believe these things, it’s better to have the thought process explained and the rationale laid out, especially if the view in question is sufficiently widespread. This is consistent with everything I’ve said. Oftentimes this selective presentation is not done with overt intentions to mislead, in the sense that the person believes in the cause, and wants to further it through the strongest possible and most “salient” data. to spread falsehood? It doesn’t occur in my a/b distinction, for example. Here’s the dictionary definition of ‘insurrection: “. They have a free speech right to call for Professor Hochschild to be fired; indeed, they have a free speech right to call for Professor Hochschild to be arrested and executed by the federal government. I’m suggesting we be aware of how dangerous propaganda propagates. So we should probably try to ignore or discourage that rhetoric from others as well. We should all be comfortable with that.”, This is consistent with everything I’ve said.Report, Sorry, I suppose I am denying that we should be comfortable with amplification of authoritarian propaganda. But regardless of insurrection vs. riot terminology, I’d recommend Robert Paxton’s analysis, which, though not totally rigorous at every step, is helpful for clarifying that the events of Jan. 6th are an indicator of a risk that can manifest through pathways other than a successful armed uprising: On to the part we might, to a significant extent, agree about. The further “the line” is from reasonable speech, the more likely it is that something which crosses “the line” will be construed as reasonable speech. (Sorry, I can’t bring myself to go back for the exact quotes.) Still. Clubs and organizations. The fact that so many here find it beyond the pale is just further evidence that it should be done. Whether the petitioners intend such action to be something like disciplining or firing Hochschild, which would be a call for his academic freedom to be violated, or instead something like issuing a statement, hosting a public conversation about the article, or launching various initiatives to counter a perceived “hostile environment”, is unclear. I don’t have a horse in the race wrt the definition of propaganda, but I would say that if we accept your construal of it, most of popular philosophy would then be propaganda. For him to call for respect in a situation where his peers call for the eradication of my being, yet he claims to uphold pro-life, is bigotry. I didn’t put this forward as a necessary condition. I’m an old goat, so old that I feel comfortable saying: that’s not the way philosophical discussion is best conducted. And though it’s difficult, particularly for those with skin in the game, to do that publicly, it’s probably better for everyone if we do. But I see it all the time in pro-choice arguments—again, I don’t think it’s intentional, although it betrays a certain kind of intellectual vice. There is a hopeful development on this front, which is that […], Imagination isn't talked up by many philosophers, or often explicitly taught as a philosophical tool. I suspect they would not care so much whether their deaths were the result of errors of commission or omission”, “As a philosopher, I can say with some authority that folks are really just overthinking this”, “She must endure everything from her husband—if he is unlucky and if he makes any mistakes because of ignorance, or sickness or drunkenness or has relationships with other women. Mount St. Mary’s Betting Information. I’m comfortable with it in the sense that I take it to be part of philosophy that we live with this tension, with disagreement, we might respond and if we do, it should not be with an ad hominem or calls for retribution. As for the overall estimation of which side is a bigger threat: first, I don’t know how to debate the issue in a way that could plausibly lead to progress. The storming of the Capitol was heartwrenching, as were many of the events across the country leading up to it. But I think it is equally clear that Prof. Hochschild’s article is not that kind of article. (I’m not claiming JH is aware of this. But, as an outsider, it seems entirely plausible that JH has the intentions that he says he has, even if the essay overall has a destructive effect. You think the threat is so much greater on the right to justify special caution with the way misinformation spreads on the right. The overblown rhetoric about an ‘armed insurrection’ (in contrast to the ‘peaceful protests’ of the summer), or repetitions of falsehoods (like that Michael Brown was murdered by the police while his hands were up and he was not a threat) are not clearly less of a threat than ‘stop the steal’ stuff. Of course, people may take issue with the petition’s main idea that because of his views, Hochschild should no longer work at the university. In addition to this, his views reflect his teaching, where students of color have repeatedly reported racial bias in his classroom. Mount St. Mary’s University is a private, liberal arts, Catholic university in Emmitsburg, Maryland, with a satellite campus in Frederick. Mount Saint Marys University is an independent, Catholic, liberal arts, university which offers a values-based education for women, as well as innovative programs for professional The Mount was NEC's No. But I agree we’ve talked ourselves out. The publication process slowed down significantly in the past year. I agree with you that Hochschild’s article is not over the line — or even close. Their goal was to forcibly keep the sitting president in power, against the constitutional process. You think the threat is so much greater on the right to justify special caution with the way misinformation spreads on the right. We should also avoid imputing ignorance or nefarious purposes, it seems to me. Given that we’re going to make mistakes no matter where we draw the line, the key question — in my mind — is “In what direction should we err?”. You may think such a lack of effort is perfectly justified (wrt ‘stop the steal’ folks), I think it’s really destructive and leads to further division and extremism. Surely those who value a liberal society in which all are free to speak and think as they wish should not be concerned about these developments.Report. The Mount St. Mary’s Mountaineers (11-10) will try to build on a three-game win streak when they visit the Bryant Bulldogs (15-5) at 7:00 PM ET on Tuesday, March 9 as underdogs. I’ve added a note to the text of the post about this.Report. The perfect hub for activities, all types of travelers will enjoy the … Mount St. Mary's proceeded to go on an 11-2 run for a 10-point advantage with 3:27 left. My personal situation is exacerbated by having spent 2019 on maternity leave, meaning there was nothing in the pipeline to […], Very sorry about this. I find it equally clear that it meets the dictionary definition of ‘coup’ (+ attempted + auto-). a violent uprising against an authority or government.” I don’t see how it can be argued that what occurred on January 6th doesn’t meet this definition. I don’t think the considerations you raise, about the typical correlations between falsehood and speciousness, suggest that amenability to factual falsehood isn’t a distinct property of an information network meriting analysis. Get the latest news and information for the Mount St. Mary's Mountaineers. Damian Chong Qui scored 21 points and Malik Jefferson scored 10 with 15 rebounds and Mount St. Mary's stunned Bryant 73-68 on Tuesday night in the Northeast Conference tournament championship game and clinched an automatic berth to the NCAA Tournament. If anything, we should be more critical, not less, of irresponsible work and perpetuation of skewed or false narratives that accord with our views.Report, And with respect to ‘comfort’—when a colleague or friend publishes something that I think is bad or irresponsible, I might wish they hadn’t published it. So in saying his post is “beyond the pale,” I’m saying we should be aware of its role in authoritarian propaganda and should try to mitigate its negative effects. If you think there is a passage in it worth drawing particular attention to, you are welcome to do so.Report, My point is that you have not drawn attention to any claim in Hochschild’s essay to which you specifically object, nor have the students. Forgot Password? But, to reject this skewed outcome based on the mistaken assumption that it results from a fundamentally double standard would be to override empirical evidence with an a priori dogma that the right and left must always be equally beyond the pale (in all ways). an opportunity to play the martyr, and reinforces the narrative among Trumpists that elite academics are joining with the mainstream media to trample on their free speech rights. [Edited to add: However, as Daniel Greco’s comment, below in which he quotes a part of the petition text that asks the university to “rethink their decision of inactivity”.]. 11—Golden trophy in hand, members of the Mount St. Mary's men's basketball team stepped off the bus onto campus amid a wave of cheers and applause Wednesday afternoon. Principal Prep. LEARN MORE. Somehow I think he would’ve been in a different place five years ago if someone had penned such a thing about Simon Newman, the tyrannical past president at MSMU who tried to fire Josh and several other faculty for their opposition to his policies.Report. Having said that, I am growing weary of this run of pieces by authors who clearly support Trump, but rather than lay their cards on the table, play coy instead — maybe so that they can cast as fools those who try to pin down their commitments. In the majority of Mount St. Mary’s games this year, the teams have not hit the over (6 out of 20 games, 30%). About really important things. I also find calls to be forthright really irritating. P.s. I think all three are all terribly mistaken, but sheesh—we disagree. However you like to stay active, there are plenty of activities, sports, and games to keep you moving at the Mount. Our analogies are by no means based on fake news or January 6th alone, as important as these are. This is central to what I’m saying. Maybe one major point of disagreement here is that I don’t see things that way. One way to start thinking about it is through Bannon’s “flood the zone” theory.Report, Ah, sorry—I think I get it now. So much of value depends upon our willingness to stand in solidarity with colleagues who express controversial views, and against the erosion of academic freedom. As we re-open businesses and restart collective activities, we should discriminate between the vaccinated and the non-vaccinated, but how? Feb 26 @ 30. The overblown rhetoric about an ‘armed insurrection’ (in contrast to the ‘peaceful protests’ of the summer), or repetitions of falsehoods (like that Michael Brown was murdered by the police, i.e. I wish we would question these narratives more than we do. But I’m still concerned that standards like this are so unevenly applied, and that similarly irresponsible work on the left gets a free pass. Most of them surely have many virtues; their support for an authoritarian movement is, obviously, a vice or derives from vices (e.g., the epistemic vices that would lead one to take the “political scientist” in question seriously). People should try to understand each other, and understanding often requires trying to place oneself into another person’s perspective for a moment. The same radical right-wing forces responsible for this threat also, in my view, contribute to the radicalization of the left and, so, there’s no tradeoff between opposing them. AT MOUNT ST. MARY HOSPITAL. People should try to understand each other, and understanding often requires trying to place oneself into another person’s perspective for a moment. Second, the threat that most concerns me right now is that the Republican party causes an electoral crisis in 2022 or, as would be more likely, 2024. I.e., we now have to answer: ‘is it propaganda? So let me say, there are dangerous elements of left-wing thought. Again, I don’t think a piece explaining the thought process behind ‘stop the steal’, given how widespread the movement is/was, is something we ought to think of as ‘beyond the pale’.Report, “I don’t think there’s a sharp distinction between factual errors and specious arguments.”. In light of the publicity that the response to Professor Hochschild’s article is getting, the provost of Mount St. Mary’s University issued a statement reiterating its commitment to academic freedom, calling for members of the university to work together with “mutual respect” to “reach a greater understanding of each other’s views and to discern the facts about the state of our society,” and announcing several diversity-related initiatives: A Maryland television news station covers the story here. I can hardly imagine any far-left philosopher receiving such a treatment as a result of linking to propagandistic misinformation, which levies falsehoods and misinformation to propose authoritarian strictures on free speech. No other intention: not to advance an agenda, nor offend individuals. But we don’t need to get into that. Recreation. A prominent Christian philosopher recently wrote a popular piece defending the legality of abortion. It’s a gross betrayal of everything a Catholic intellectual should stand for. Mount St. Mary's University is a private institution that was founded in 1808. But, I reiterate, it remains to be seen. (Or if you still think it’s correct as it stands, I’d be very interested to know why. Coming soon: a tool for the accurate machine-reading of medieval Latin texts, Perhaps it should have been “Immanuel and the Purple Crayon”, “He’s got the instincts of a grand unifier” and “the heart of a multiplier”, “When Harvard’s administrators tell Professor West that they cannot bring him up for tenure because it’s ‘too risky’ and he’s ‘too controversial,’ they completely undermine the point of tenure”, “I live near Arlington National Cemetery, where approximately 400,000 veterans… are buried. But there’s a difference between (a) contributing to the exploitation of a system of factual falsehood in order to bring about a disaster and (b) being wrong and having one’s wrongness repeated by a mostly decent system (even if it were to contribute to a disaster). The US just came as close as we ever have to a bona fide coup attempt, a sizable portion of the country is gripped by mass delusion, and here is Josh Hochschild writing thousands of words in a right-wing rag to “elicit sympathy” and “get people thinking” and “provide narrative context” in place of “limited notions of reasons”. SMITHFIELD, R.I. (AP) — Damian Chong Qui scored 21 points and Malik Jefferson scored 10 with 15 rebounds and Mount St. Mary’s stunned Bryant 73-68 on Tuesday night in the Northeast Conference tournament championship game and clinched an automatic berth to the NCAA Tournament. I’m sure he didn’t, it to be exploiting the media’s immunity to lies, etc., but it did exploit the media’s immunity to lies, and in a way that (to my mind) will have very bad consequences.”, it’s hard to see how this construal of propaganda doesn’t just boil down to “popular pieces that support falsehoods” (maybe with some addendum that it’s political or that it matters a lot).”, As for the overall estimation of which side is a bigger threat: first, I don’t know how to debate the issue in a way that could plausibly lead to progress. The game marked Mount St. Mary’s eighth appearance in the NEC championship game since joining the league in 1989-90.

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